AUDI 50? = VW GOLF MK1??

[davidrrocco]

POS Q NO LO CONOCIA PERO SON CLAVAITOS.

JUDGAR VOSOTROS:

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[Desfase 2.0i]

jostias! Me ha venido un flash también del 127 eh!!

[lupogt]

no me deja verlas,pon una foto q si no no puedo comparar

[Desfase 2.0i]

Aquí unas pocas:
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[manuel_garrido]

AUDI 50 = VW POLO MK1

Aqui os pongo este breve resumen, en inglés, donde dice que el AUDI 50 fue la base del POLO MK1. Tengo más cosas y luego las cuelgo.

El AUDI 50 salio al mercado a finales del 74 cuando ya estaba el GOLF MK1 por lo que supongo que aprovecharía alguna cosa del GOLF pero es la base del POLO 1 (Type 86).

Esto está extraido de http://www.polog40.co.uk que es una web dedicada al POLO G40.


Polo G40 History

The story of the G40 began in late 1974 with the introduction of the Audi 50, a front wheel drive 3 door hatchback. A Volkswagen badged version of this car soon followed, based on the same body shell and with an 895cc engine producing 40bhp. The name Polo was chosen and it soon became a very successful model, with examples reaching the UK from February 1976. This initial version (Polo I) was given a minor facelift in 1979 to become the Polo IF. Later that year the first Polo GT model became available in some markets. This had a 60bhp engine and sporting features such as a spoiler, wider tyres, and a rev counter.

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Audi 50 GL

In October 1981 the Polo II (Polo Mk2) took over from the original model. The initial hatchback version of the Mk2 featured a steeply sloping tailgate providing excellent load carrying ability for a car of the size. Within a year a coupe body style was added with a more gently sloping hatch, similar in profile to the original Mk1 Polo. The Polo Coupe was intended as the sporting version; the 1272cc GT Coupe featured a 75bhp (55kW) engine and other modifications such as fog lamps in the grill, and a rear anti-roll bar. It could reach 62mph (100km/h) in around 11.5 seconds.

Unfortunately for the UK market the 75bhp version of the GT Coupe was not available; the top of the range Mk2 Coupe model in the UK developed 55bhp (40kW) from its 1272cc capacity. However it did benefit from front and rear spoilers, stronger drive shafts, 165/70 tyres on 13 x 5.5 rims under wheel arch extensions, rev counter, and special trim. In late 1984 modifications were made across the range including a larger fuel tank and lowered suspension. Other significant changes to the Mk2 occurred a year later with the introduction of electronic ignition and a revised cylinder head employing hydraulic tappets. By then the Coupe had been developed into the desirable Coupe 'S' model, with the additions of fog lamps in the grill, sports seats, and a 5 speed gearbox.

During 1983 the total number of Polos produced reached one million, including the saloon and van versions that had also become available. At around this time the factory had started to experiment with ways of boosting the power of the Polo's small engines. Due to the size of the car a larger engine was not a practical proposition, so instead they decided to use forced induction to provide the necessary performance. Rather than a turbo charger with its problems of turbo lag and excessive heat, a supercharger was chosen. This was an unconventional design referred to by Volkswagen as the G-Lader after the shape of its spiral displacer. Use of a 40mm version of the G-Lader allowed the power of the 1272cc Polo engine to be raised to 115bhp (85kW) and led to the designation G40.

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VW Polo GT G40

A G40 powered Polo Coupe was first presented at the 1985 Frankfurt Motor Show and was named the Polo GT G40. Shortly after this the factory used the new model to make a successful attempt on two world records in the 1300cc class. However, it was not until early 1987 that a special batch of just 500 of these cars actually became available. It is rumoured that these sold out almost immediately with many being purchased by Volkswagen employees. These vehicles were produced in left hand drive only; the Mk2 G40 was never officially available in the UK although a few have since found owners here.

The next Polo range arrived in late 1990 when the Polo II underwent a facelift to become the Polo IIF (Polo Mk3 in the UK). The most noticeable difference was the change to rectangular headlamps but there were significant changes under the bonnet; fuel injection replaced carburettors allowing the introduction of catalytic convertors across the range. When the Mk3 was first introduced to the UK the GT was the most powerful model producing 75bhp (55kW) from its high compression 1272cc engine and Digifant multi-point injection. This was available in both the hatchback and coupe body styles although the hatchback GT was soon discontinued due to poor sales. The Mk3 Polo was now produced in Spain at the Volkswagen owned Seat factory. The build quality of these Mk3 models is perhaps not quite as good as the German made Mk2, but they are still among the most reliable and rust free small cars around.

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VW Polo G40

In May 1991, a G40 powered Polo finally arrived to displace the GT as the top Polo model available in the UK. Rather than being a special build like the Mk2 G40, the Mk3 G40 had been designed as an integral part of the Mk3 range. It was based on the GT Coupe model, but with the assistance of the G-Lader and an intercooler, power was boosted to 113bhp (83kW). The slight power reduction compared to the Mk2 G40 was due to the standard fitment of a catalytic convertor on all G40s sold in the UK. A characteristic of forced induction is a very wide spread of torque, which peaked at 111lb ft (150Nm) in the Mk3 G40. This led to an impressive 0 to 60mph time of just 8.1 seconds (1992 VW brochure figure). Other distinguishing features were lowered and stiffened suspension with a rear anti-roll bar, ventilated front brakes, and 175/60 tyres on 13 x 5.5 BBS alloy rims. Red striped bumpers, G40 badges front and rear, special 'Le Mans' interior trim, and a roof mounted 'bee sting' aerial completed the cosmetics.

To assist with publicity for the Polo range in general, Volkswagen introduced a one make race series for the G40 called the G40 Cup. These G40s continue to be raced in the Super Coupe Cup against performance models from Renault, Rover and Honda.

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VW Polo G40 Cup

During the life of the UK Market Mk3 G40 there were only minor specification changes; for the 1992 model year clear front indicators and tinted rear lights were included along with a different stereo radio/cassette unit. Various options were available such as front fog lamps and a sunroof, although luxuries like electric windows and central locking were never offered. A single right hand drive example of the special edition 'Genesis' G40 also found its way to the UK.

Only about 500 Mk3 Polo G40s were produced in right hand drive form for sale in the UK. Even then Volkswagen did not find these easy to sell. This was largely due to the high price when compared to better equipped and larger (but much slower!) rivals. When it was first launched in the UK the G40 had a list price of £11,568. The price dropped each year until by the final model year of 1994 it had fallen to just under £10,000. Many of the G40s from the initial 1991 batch were not sold until one or two years later. A few unregistered examples were even discovered about a year ago!

The Polo III (Polo Mk4) began to take over from the Mk3 in late 1994 and the G40 was discontinued. The Mk4 Polo owes more to the Mk2 Volkswagen Golf than the earlier Polos. Much of the bodyshell, mechanics and interior are shared with the Seat Ibiza, both cars being produced in the Seat factory in Spain where the Mk3 G40s were built. The most powerful model was a 1.4 16V but its performance did not match that of the G40, mainly due to its much increased weight. Possibly for marketing reasons the Mk4 Polo was not given the 2.0 8V, 2.0 16V, and more recently 1.8 20V turbo engines enjoyed by the Seat Ibiza. However the Mk4 Polo is becoming increasingly popular as a modified car; several have been fitted with VR6 engines and at least one has been converted to G40 power.

The latest development has been a facelift of the Mk4. The current range includes the most powerful standard production Polo yet, the 1.6 16V GTi model producing 125bhp, with acceleration close to that of the G40. Due to cost and reliability issues it seems unlikely that there will be any future G-Lader powered Polos, so if you are one of the lucky owners, drive carefully!

The production G40 was only ever available from the factory as a coupe although there have been several transplants into the other Polo body styles. This is easily achieved with the Mk3 Polo models as the necessary mounting points for the G40 installation are common to all bodyshells.

Nick Dilley

[manuel_garrido]

Más cosas, extraidas de http://www.polo-gt.co.uk/ donde vuelven a relacionar el AUDI 50 con el POLO 1.

1975 - 2002 The History of the VW Polo


With the difference between the brands today it might be hard to believe but the Polo owes its heritage to Audi. Starting life on the 30 Aug 1974, the Polo was born as the Audi 50.

AUDI 50 1974-78

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The Audi 50 was a three-door hatchback launched in 1974 and sold only on the continent. The car was offered with a single capacity engine - 1043cc - producing either 50 (LS model) or 60bhp (GL model). The 60bhp unit was claimed to give a top speed of 100mph. The model was popular on the continent for both its high specification for a car of that time and the relatively low cost it was sold at. The production run was short when the model morphed into the Mk 1 Polo sales dropped off and Audi discontinued the line.

POLO 1 1975 - 81


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The VW version of the Audi 50 was launched in 1975 under the guise of the Polo and came to England for the first time in 1976. The first car was a "budget" version of the Audi and spec levels were substantially lower. Despite this the Polo outsold its more expensive stable mate and in 1978 the Audi 50 production was ceased.

When first on sale the range topping car, the LS model, was sold for £2,699 and featured the 60bhp 1043cc engine found in the Audi 50. Other specifications included parking lights, rear wash wipe, driver sun visor, chromed bumpers and 4.5J X 13" wheels.

The N model was the basic starting spec lacking many of the features of the LS.

In 1978 the first Polo saloon was launched, billed as the Derby. With similar design from the front back to the C pillar, the differences can at the rear of the car where the traditional hatch back had been replaced with a saloon style boot. In 1980 the round headlights of the Derby were replaced with square ones, bringing it in line with the similar Jetta found in the Golf range.

In 1979 the GLS was introduced, replacing the LS as the range-topping car Specification upgrades included chrome headlight and grill surrounds, sunroof, a cigarette lighter and chrome wheel trims.

Further models were added until the end of the Mk1's production in 1981 including CLS, S and an out run LX model.

The Mk1's production run ended in October 1981 after a six year run that resulted in the sale of 86, 000 models in the UK alone. However, this figure is not well represented well today and if you see a Mk1 on the street consider it a rare sight.

POLO 2 1981 - 90


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Soon after the production run of the Mk1, the Mk2 was launched as the "squareback" - a car more estate based in styling than the hatchback of the Mk1.

At launch the basic C model cost £3,799 with the higher model of the CL and range topping GL all being powered by 1043cc petrol engines.

In 1983 two additional models - the saloon and coupe, joined the "squareback" layout Polo. The saloon was named the Derby and was launched first with the same "boot instead of hatchback" rear layout of the Mk1.

The coupe echoed the styling of the Mk1 by being a hatchback. Whilst not a "coupe" in the true sense of the word, VW had billed the "squareback" as the hatchback and therefore the coupe name, which has been associated with sporting Polo's since, was born. Available with the 1093cc engine the "coupe" featured additions such as sporting seats trim, wheel arch extensions, rear spoiler, low profile tyres and a rev counter.

The GL was also up-speced to a 60bhp engine and this change was reflected in its £4,798 price.

In 1984 an all-new engine was introduced and provided the basic engine for all 1.3 Polo's for the next 10 years. The 1272cc, 55bhp engine was found in the C, CL, GL and Coupe pushing the cost for the later up to £5,070.

In 1985 the first Coupe S was introduced. Basically a renamed continental Polo GT, the Coupe featuring the same 55bhp engine but it now featured twin headlights, a digital clock and sports seats. Priced at £5,654 when new this car remains one of the most popular Mk 2 Polo's seen on the road today.

In 1986 the 1043cc and 1272cc were re-vamped to include new camshafts, hydraulic tappets, new valve gear and an automatic choke.

In Germany VW built the LHD only Polo Coupe GT G40. Based on the 1272cc 55bhp engine it featured a small bore G-Lader supercharger. Used to set a number of world endurance speed records - such as the 24 hour 130mph record. A small number of these cars were built for production but were mainly sold to VW workers

Other special feature models were introduced over the rest of the period of the Mk2 production run including models such as the Twist, Parade and Country. Production of the Mk2 finally ceased in September 1990 when the facelifted 2F or Mk3 was introduced.

POLO 3 - 1990-94


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Launched in October 1990 the Mk3 Polo was basically a face lifted Mk2. Whilst based on the 1980's car, major changes had occurred including chassis, cosmetic, interior, suspension and model re-vamps and a brake servo was added to improved the much criticised braking potential. Built in Spain the build quality of some of the Mk 3 models was the lowest that VW has ever seen. However, they have proved popular with owners the world over and can still be seen in large numbers across Britain.

The three different styles (coupe, hatch and saloon) were maintained whilst additions such as "big bumper" style bumpers, square headlights and a remodelled interior and dash brought the car up to date.

The basic car was the 1043cc Polo Fox featuring a 45bhp engine whilst the range was topped by the hatch back and coupe GT model featuring a 1272cc Digifant multi-point injection engine similar to the 8V Golf GTI engine of the same time. With a quoted top speed of 107mph and external additions such as arch extensions and side skirts, sports seats, 3 spoke steering wheel and black VW emblems this was the sportiest VW Polo to date. However, the production run of the hatch back version was limited and by 1992 only the coupe was available.

The Fox was competitively priced against other cars of its type at £6,500 with both body styles being priced identically.

The CL was the interim model. With a 1272cc single point injection engine producing 55bhp it filled the middle ground between the Fox and the GT and was the best selling Polo of this period.

Soon after the launch of the Mk3 a full production version was available with the G40 engine. Similar to that found in the Mk2 the engine produced 113bhp (the addition of a catalytic converter lowered the power output from that of the Mk2) and gave 0-60 figures of 8.1 seconds and a top speed of 125mph. Lowered by 25 mm over the standard Polo and featuring special addition Le Mans sports seats, similar exterior styling to the GT with the addition of a bee sting aerial and 5.5J X13" BBS RA cross spoke alloy wheels the G40 was finally a car to challenge the popularity of the Golf GTI. However, priced at £11,568 the G40 was only just cheaper than the higher speced and better handling Mk2 Golf GTI resulted in VW putting the car forward for competition in the Volkswagen Polo G40 Cup to aid popularity.

Additional special feature models included the Boulevard and Genesis. The Boulevard was a special equipment Fox featuring such items as a glove box door and CL wheel trims whilst the Genesis could be bought in either 1043 or 1272cc guises. One of the first of the special models VW offered named after bands, the Genesis featured "Modekaro" seats from the Sirocco GT II, a rev counter, sunroof and digital clock.

The out run model of the Mk3 was the Match. Featuring five spoke Sport Rader alloy wheels along with £640 worth of other extras it proved relatively popular considering the imminent arrival of the Mk4, a car which took the Polo to different levels of refinement.

Production of Spanish built Polo's ended in August 1994.

POLO 4 1994-99

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Launched in Paris in August of 1995 the Mk4 was a completely different Polo from the previous models. The Mk3 version had been based on the Mk2 whereas the Mk4 shared the same floor pan as the SEAT Ibiza.

Launched initially as a hatchback similar in misnomer as the earlier "squareback". Available originally in four trim levels ranging from the L at the bottom level of the scale through the CL and GL to the range topping GLX model. Fitted with 1043 45bhp 1272cc 55bhp, 1598cc engines and having four doors for the first time in the cars history the Polo had grown up.

Whilst based on the SEAT and sharing a number of similar components such as the dashboard the Polo continued the demise of VW as a sporting brand. This is clearly reflected by the SEAT receiving a 150bhp 2.0 litre engine in the form of the Cupra Sport whilst the largest engine the Polo received was the 1.9 litre diesel.

However, whilst not offering sporting variants the new model was better equipped than ever before and a range of models featured items such as colour coded bumpers, heated/electrically -adjustable mirrors, four speaker stereo, dust filters, central locking, read head restraints, split rear seats, fog lights, alloy wheel, air bags and so on.

A slightly different option was found in the Polo Open Air. Similar to an option found on the Beetle this featured a full length sliding canvas roof that could be opened along the entire length of the car roof.

One of the most interesting models was the Harlequin. Featuring a multi-coloured body each panel was a different colour from the adjacent one ranging from red, yellow to pistachio and blue. Sighting one of these cars is a rare "treat", as they did not sell in vast numbers.

In 1994 the Polo SE or Special Equipment was launched. Based on the 1.4 L it poached a number of features from higher spec models such as the GLX bumpers, Sport Rader alloy wheels, tinted rear light clusters and clear indicators.

In April 1996 the Derby raised its head again but this time under the name of the Polo Saloon. Based on the Cordoba in a similar manner that the Polo Hatch was based on the Ibiza the car came with three engine options, a 75bhp or 100bhp 1.6 litre or a 64bhp 1.9 litre.

In 1997 the 1043cc engine was finally retired and replaced by all-new aluminium blocked multi-point injection 999cc developing 50bhp.

Then the 16V was introduced to replace the GLX. One of the most popular Mk4 versions with modifiers the 1.4 16V unit came with 100bhp as standard. However, with a 0-60 in 10.6 seconds and a top speed of 117 mph the car was no match for the similar Ibiza with a 2.0 16V engine. At a cost of £12,095 for the three-door model this car was often seen as over priced for the kicks it delivered.

The Polo Estate arrived in 1998. Again based on the SEAT it took the Polo into a much higher size bracket that it had ever been in before and had difficulty sitting comfortably in the "small car" category.

Then the inevitable happened. The Golf GTI had grown old and fat and the mantle was being passed to its baby brother. The Polo GTI was born. However, with a limited production run of 3000 units the Mk 4 GTI never made it to Britain. Featuring a 1.6 16V 120bhp unit that would later be found (with power hiked to 125bhp) in the later model, the car came with 15" BBS alloys and could sprint to 60 in just 9.1 seconds. Still no rocket ship but were VW finally getting back to their old ways??

The Mk 4 came to the end of its production run in 1999 with another Polo Match. Similar to the Mk 3 version of the Match this out run came with alloy wheels and a number of other extras found on higher spec models.

POLO Mk5 2000 - 2002


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The Polo had now notched up 25 years of service and VW revamped it to bring it up to date for the new Millennium.

Whilst it was basically a face-lift of the previous model, the range boasted many upgrades over the Mk4 including a fully galvanised and stiffened body-shell and a much up-rated suspension set up. External changes included new clear lights, different front bumper and grill and changes to the tailgate styling. Inside higher quality seats and fittings appeared whilst the dash styling was similar to that found in the Audi TT and Lupo.

Specification options ranged from power steering, tinted glass, split rear seats, electric windows and cup holders to ABS, air conditioning, Xeon headlights and satellite navigation.

Thirty-two models with seven engines ranging from the 1.4 diesel to the 1.6 16V GTI made the choice of Polo the widest ever seen.

The base model was the E with the option of no less than 5 engines ranging from the 1.0 50bhp to the 1.9 TDI unit found across the VAG range, producing 90bhp. At a cost of £8290 for the 1.0 hatchback this was considered cheap for the build quality and spec list when compared to other cars.

Then came the S and SE models. With engine options ranging from 60bhp to a 110bhp diesel they offered a range of features usually found on the more sporty models but without the insurance or running cost woes.

VW offered two sporting models, the 16V and GTI.

The 16V came with a 1.4 16V 100bhp engine and had options such as 15" Spa alloys, air conditioning. However, of more interest was the GTI, the first time the Polo had such high spec on a UK model.

Available only in the hatchback form the GTI was powered but a 1.6 16V 125bhp engine making it the most powerful Polo straight out the factory to date. External changes gave the car the looks to match its power. Deeper front bumpers with mesh inserts, side skirts, fog lights, a mesh grill and 15" BBS split rims suited the car well. There was also extras such as air conditioning, Xeon headlights and a CD autochanger, leather and satellite navigation.

Available in the same three colours as the original Golf GTI - red, black and silver the car was the first truly "hot hatch" that VW had produced in a good few years. However, a short production run and a price of £13,995 mean that there are not thousands to be seen on Britain's roads.

POLO Mk 6 2002 - to date.

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Keeping to VW's aim of floor pan sharing the latest Polo comes from the same base as the new Ibiza and the Skoda Fabia. Launched in September 2001 the car looked more similar to the smaller Lupo than it did to previous Polo models.

Whilst the basic chassis of the Skoda has won high acclaim from the motoring press the Polo currently doesn't take advantage of this. "Economy" appears to have been the watch word for the first range of engines.

Starting with a revolutionary 1.2 three cylinder engine developing 55bhp there is then a 1.4 75 or 100bhp engine.

However, the 1.9 TDI PD 100bhp unit will be in introduced in the future whilst rumours of a Polo featuring the 1.8 20 Turbo engine abound.

The models range includes the norm for current VW's from the E and SE to the Sport whilst featuring all the extras that you'd expect of a current mid-sized small car. Items such as ABS, power steering, front and side air bags and front and rear head restraints as standard on all models and ESP, brake assistance, air conditioning, satellite navigation etc. as options on higher spec models.

However, whilst the styling of the new Polo harks of the Lupo the ethos does not. The Lupo has taken over the mantle of the smallest VW and enthusiasts of small, enjoyable, hot hatches must look to the 6 speed Lupo GTI to fulfil the void of sporting Polo's that the Mk 2 Coupe S, the Mk 3 G40, Mk 4 16V and Mk 5 GTI filled Comfortably.

[Napalm]

es una preciosidad!!

[Desfase 2.0i]

el de la 3ª foto que he puesto...UUUUUFFFF!!!

[ocbGTI]

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Este me mola:D

[manuel_garrido]

esta muy guapo y hasta lo de Coca Cola me mola

[Corrado style]

EL AUDI 50 es el POLO de primera generacion!!
EMPEZO AUDI y PASO A VW !

[manuel_garrido]

jeje gracias MICK por confirmarlo... asi que el titulo podiais poner AUDI 50 = VW POLO MK1

algo bueno tenia que tener el POLO que viene de un AUDI :)

[curto]

es verdad son calcados

[Chuiso]

Si, son parecidos (junto con el Polo primera serie que no se vendio en españa)pero no iguales. reconozco que de un vistazo se pueden llegar a confundir pero...............

El Golf tiene un aspecto mas deportivo e imponente, ¿O no?

[hipergolfo]

Lo de Coca-Cola es una horterada.